The fact that the EP8 motor uses the same mounting points as the old E8000 motor means there are a few bikes out there that were anticipating will be updated with the new motor like the Norco Sight VLT and Range VLT. Update. But on the premise of further, faster, more fun, that range at full noise is not gonna outdo the range & fun I get outta my bowl of cereal and some old fashion pedal power. Weve been living with the Shimano EP8 motor for six months now across three different bikes; the Merida eOne-Sixty, the Polygon Mt Bromo, and the Canyon Spectral:ON. When they start looking (and weighing closer to regular trail bikes then I'll consider. The Shimano EP8 user interface is similarly elegant in its design. e-bikes remove the only non-financial barrier for entry into a sport that historically required at least some small amount of fitness. So despite being an engineer the non-linear noisy nature of the reporting makes it very difficult to plan rides and I almost always finish the last few km without assistance for bigger rides. I can concur with the range, it's not as good as I expected. e*thirteen cranks are commonly specced on electric mountain bikes fitted with Shimano EP8 motors, by bike brands including Commencal, Marin, Orange and Orbea, among others. The updated Trail mode is brilliant, and the option to fine-tune each assist mode is a welcome feature for achieving the desired feel while maximising range. Cargo Take the load off and breeze past traffic jams Commuting Upgrade your urban lifestyle Active Get sportier in the city SHIMANO CUES Di2 Our all-new SHIMANO CUES Di2 inspires a more active and sportier lifestyle while making commutes less stressful so you can focus on the road - and the ride. Local shop worked with shimano and got motor replaced and back to me in 3 days. e*thirteen recommends inspecting Shimano EP8 motor spindles to ensure no cracks are present before riding any EP8 equipped bike again and in doing so have provided a step by step process for doing this with images and instructions below. The brand told us it was aware of the spindle issue and has been in contact with both Shimano and e*thirteen about it. If consumers use the recommended cranks, there should not be any issue this combination meets our strict and exacting quality standards. Bikers Edge in Kaysville Utah hooked it up and took a motor off their demo heckler mx and put it on mine. The DIODE has the Shimano E8000 motor and both bikes regardless of motor specs and differences do one thing really, really wellthey make riding FUN! After downloading the free E-Tube Project app, youll need to turn the bike on and pair it with your smartphone. Personally, were ok with downshifting and spinning our way up a steep incline its better for the health of your knees, and its likely better for the health of the motor too. Purchased an SC Bullit in march and I now have 520 miles on it. Furthermore, the range estimation is more accurate in our experience too. In the higher settings, the motor will deliver maximum power without you having to pedal very hard at all. Couldn't agree more. Basically, the battery level drops from around 30% to 2% extremely quickly. Instead, we recommend setting aside some time for a battery-drainer test ride, somewhere that is accessible and easy to ride out with a flat battery, in order to work out your maximum range you can get during typical riding conditions. Power less, battery smaller, it lighter is.. Would "every time you push the on switch" have been more understandable? Ive only charged 2x. If you don't like e-bikes for whatever reason, you really have no business even commenting on this review. So far so good. The Brose Mag S motor has been used in the Specialized Levo and Kenevo since 2018, though it was recently updated for the release of the new Levo. Wed much rather see battery life displayed as a percentage, and the option to customise the screen. Climbs really well and descends like a beast. Along with the new EP8 motor, Shimano has also released a larger 630Wh battery, which seems to be the most popular option at the moment youll find it inside both the Canyon Spectral:ON and Merida eOne-Sixty. Here youll find three sliding scales for each of the three assist modes (thats Eco, Trail and Boost). Simply named by Specialized as the 2.2, the motor continues to offer 90Nm of peak torque, and externally it has the same mounting points and overall shape. Subscribe from just 13.50 and get a Lezyne Pocket Drive Pump, worth 29! With that said, all my riding is tough climbs and steep descents, without an e-bike would be walking up a bunch of it. I chose this bike because it has the EP8 and from research, seems to be the most reliable platform out there, assuming it's as reliable as the E8000. Alex Evans is BikeRadars senior mountain bike technical editor. That makes it tricky to work out how much assistance youll be finishing your ride with. Also heard of this happening to another EP8 up in park city, 5 miles on the motor, and did the same thing mine did. Limiting the maximum torque is something youll notice more at low cadences in high-load applications rather than general trail riding. A dinamo or recharging when braking or something That's what I'm still waiting for! The actual mechanism works well but is very easy to break, just turn the allen key the wrong way by mistake..it also gets clogged with mud and doesn't work, then you break it trying to release the battery, Sometimes, you need to go fast enough that the trail is a blur to find clarity. Weve ridden the latest Bosch Performance CX Gen 4 motor on a variety of e-MTBs, including the Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 and the Trek Rail. What can consumers expect to happen if their EP8s spindle fails? I would have respected Shimano more if they owned it and were more forthright about working to resolve it. - Range estimation is not reliable. Additionally, Shimano produces a smaller and lighter 504Wh option, which is also cheaper and helps to bring the complete bike price down see the sub-$8K Polygon Mt Bromo N8 for example. Unfortunately frenchies and Germans are not masters of marketing. Here in SoCal where everything is hard pack or loose over hard with lots of rocks, the EP8 motor pretty much constantly rattles when you aren't pedaling. This also allows brands to more neatly integrate the motor into their frame designs, Canyon having done a particularly swell job with the Spectral:ON. Alex moved to Morzine in the French Alps at 19 to pursue a career as a bike bum and clocked up an enormous amount of riding. Generally on bikes we spend so little time braking that regeneration would be a waste of effort. Really? Now well point out here that the Bosch Gen 4 motor exhibits a similar metallic clacking noise, since its internal gear system also employs a clutch. This will be a far more accurate method for determining your estimated range. Its clear why this motor is becoming popular with so many bike brands, given the flexibility it offers frame designers, particularly with the variety of battery options on offer. Wait until you see how much work it takes to replace rear derailleur housing! IMO we're still in the pilot phase and have a lot of room for improvement. I own the Levo SL, and it is the most refined ebike I have ridden so far. When youre descending down the trail, the volume and resonance are amplified. Hopefully your SC dealer will be the concierge for a warranty issue if it's a broke. Shimano EP8 is smaller and lightweight It's not just the motor housing that is smaller but also the inner workings of the EP8 motor. Along with the svelte carbon frame, that helps to reduce the total bike weight to as low as 16.2kg, creating a potentially worthy adversary to the Specialized Levo SL. If you aren't climbing steeps and requiring the torque, you would get way longer distance. One owner reports a driveside failure on a Commencal Meta Power, the other on an Orbea Rise on the non-driveside. The Bosch motor produces the same 85Nm peak torque output as Shimano EP8, and it offers a similarly drag-free ride quality beyond the 25km/h cutoff due to the motor decoupling from the cranks. is a broken record . I have a gen 3 and it's totally quiet when coasting . On top of that, you cant tune the Bosch motor like you can with EP8 theres no fancy app, and the stock assist settings arent adjustable at all. The three EP8 bikes weve tested all have sub-440mm rear centre lengths, which is quite a bit shorter than the 471.5mm rear centre on the Giant Trance X E+ with its much bulkier Yamaha motor, for example. You dont necessarily go further, but you will be riding and climbing faster. On my e8000, my impression was (now on a Trek Rail w a Bosch gen 4) that if you were at two bars, you were really at one, and if you were at one, youd better be a couple of blocks from home. Ebikes are cool but not quite refined enough to jump in yet. In the lower settings, youll have to pedal really hard to get maximum support the motor. I was sure it was a motor issue till I realized I needed to put the speed sensor on the new wheel. Easy fix. "- Only five power bars for charge level.". Posted Oct 21, 2020. Regardless ebike or "normal" MTB. No, but the best on the market IMO. According to e*thirteen, the safety inspection is relevant to all EP8 owners, regardless of what cranks are fitted. My first thoughts are that the disengagement part of the motor that allows it to pedal freely after 20 has already broken. Anyone knows what's are those white (ish) shoes the reviewer is using on some of the pics? I love the progression of Ebikes! The EM800 display features built-in Bluetooth and ANT+ wireless connectivity for pairing both your phone and a compatible GPS head unit, allowing you to display information such as battery life and remaining range. But yeah, different people. Then theres the BT-8035-L battery, which is a 504Wh battery that shares the same physical dimensions as the 630Wh version. Damn, sorry to hear this especially since I own the same bike! Its a little different though, with Orbea detuning the motors power and assistance to improve efficiency so it can use a smaller and lighter 360Wh battery. Subscribe to Cycling Plus from just 13.50 and get a Lezyne Pocket Drive Pump, worth 29! By their own standards of non-assist components, this motor is not worthy of the shimano name. Put on i9 Hydra hubs, annoying motor rattle sounds disappears. While the motor is both more sensitive and more powerful though, Shimano has done brilliantly to offer usable control of that power. However, when coasting on rough terrain the unloaded system can exhibit a 'NORMAL' clicking sound that may be detectable to the rider. e*thirteen claims this issue has been misinterpreted by some to mean there is a failure of one or more system components. Probably more than some rattle. me-bikes: Ibis Exie, Ibis Ripley V4, Ibis Ripmo V2. The Levo SL? If there is no threadlocker patch, move onto point 2c. 3. Currently, I own two e-bikes with a new 2022 Moustache Samedi 26 Fat 4 with the Bosch Motor on its way. I've never heard the rattling noise that has been posted in the early reviews - the motor is super quiet, so it looks to me like much ado about nothing. An E-bike with 200 watt power assist, 350 WH battery, and total weight of bike under 34 lbs. Sell it to me, bet ya cant specially at a respectable 90 keys. The metallurgic analysis was conducted to discover root cause. And you're clearly not pedaling, just pure flow. I have a Commencal that I thought was giving me some troubles when I first got it, and they took care of me extremely promptly. It's really, really quite quiet. So why has no one made a motorized gearbox yet? However, where the Bosch Gen 4 feels like a diesel engine at low RPMs, the sporty EP8 drive unit still prefers spinning at a higher cadence. I have to admit some of the comments make me laugh out loud while others score some points for being helpful and based on fact, not hearsay fiction. If thats the case for you, start at Level 5 and work your way down a notch at a time. I have this motor. 2023 Thok TK01 R Review | A surprising package from an Italian e-MTB specialist, 2022 Canyon Spectral:ON Review | A better e-MTB in almost every way, 2023 Trek Fuel EXe Review | This brand new lightweight e-MTB is the stealthiest weve ever tested, Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay Review | Power is nothing without control, This website requires Javascript for optimum viewing purposes. Maximum power output sits at 500W, although the. If youre sprinting at speed, the Levo feels sticky and lazy in comparison to the drag-free EP8 motor. The YT Decoy also utilises its own 520Wh battery and the the Orbea Rise is built around a smaller 360Wh battery. Hopefully we will have a system with little weight penalty in a few years. I'm 56 with a long term knee injury. Hey Ralf Hauser!! I have no personal experience riding with pedal assist but when I hear the high whiz from the motor I think that would drive me mad too. The belt-driven design is also a touch quieter when pedalling, and theres no clacking noise either. I think the only way it can get even close (And still doesn't) to that statement, is riding 25km on an analogue, or 50km on an ebike. How many instances of this problem has Shimano encountered? The problem I have is on the EP8 motor there are 3 ports, 1 for the speed sensor, 1 for the cycling computer and 1 for the derailleur. That rattling feeling comes from one way bearing. IMO Shimano bikes are good,but they are 2 steps down compared to Specialized and Bosch. My local rides average 30-35km with just under 1km of climb. The question of what happens with this combination is for the manufacturer of that combination to answer.. If I pull the E-trigger, it'll still be a Levo SL now that S has worked through the issues. Shimano advises that only approved crank arms should be used with its DU-EP8 drive units, reads Shimanos statement. Can't see the equivalent of a ribbed chainstay protector happening. I've already posted this on the Commencal Meta SX Power thread, but wondered if other bikes with the Shimano EP8 motor and battery have seen a similar problem. I mean, one of the most beautiful things about the bicycle is how efficient and capable it is of traveling long distances under our own power. Truly unfortunate you lost it. Unfortunately this clutch also produces a metallic clack whenever it rotates back and fourth. The Pivot Shuttle, for example, employs a huge 726Wh battery made by a third party company called Darfon. Furthermore, having the battery life displayed as five bars is positively rudimentary. So then it gets really confusing as it seems like the first bar lasts 30% and the last one 10%. I want to use the Shimano EP8 motor for a small production of solar bikes. Have had my Norco Range LVT with the EP8 for a week and have noticed the noise, maybe once? Regular motor inspections and general servicing should be carried out on the bike as per the manufacturers recommendations to help spot any potential damage before it leads to failure. The noise is easily demonstrated if you pick the back wheel up a few inches off the ground and let it come back down. You've been subscribed to our newsletter. What Type of Mountain Bike Should You Buy in 2023? Not a big Chan e but worth a look. Please, It appears you're using an old version of Internet Explorer which is, the 471.5mm rear centre on the Giant Trance X E+, that achieves the most discreet integration, the MasterMind TCU display on the new Specialized Levo. LEARN MORE Latest stories View all stories This means its impossible to tell whether you have 21% or 49% battery remaining. On top of that, Shimano also appears to be cool with brands building their bikes with non-Shimano batteries. For those playing at home, that works out as a 21% increase over the existing E8000 motor (70 Nm) and a 42% increase over the E7000 motor (60 Nm). No mention on the worldwide recall of the motor due to issues? @tomdesoals: Ah, thanks I get it. By Ralf Hauser The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: The Real Bike Weights from PB Editors. Maybe in a next generation they can implement an optional solution analog to what we're already seeing f bicycle chains. The reported cases of drive unit spindle breakages on our DU-EP800 drive units were combined with non-Shimano cranks. Its also a very quiet motor when pedalling. Not the first time Shimano has screwed the pooch with recent launches. The current spares situation is shocking, l've been waiting six weeks for a battery lock for my E8000 equipped Kona and have been told "June" is the earliest l can expect to see it. Assistance Start Here you can tweak how quickly the motor responds within the first pedal stroke. there are no additional ports on the SC-E5003 to connect the switch with. For the type of riding and trails I do, battery power is not an issue, in fact would look at a smaller battery and weight savings on my next rig. Most brains will be capable of doing this, as the noise in question isnt actually signalling a fault with the motor. You can't call an e-bike rider lazy when they try to overtake you making this sound. All bikes [have been] assembled with Shimano cranks since 2021 April.. We see some comments about how bad the Shimano EP8 motor is. @tomdesoals: Yeah, I get that now that bikes have become more silent anything new that makes noise can become annoying. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The compact size and a magnesium casing helped cut 300 grams. The low profile EM800 display takes up minimal space next to the stem, featuring a crystal-clear screen with colour-coded graphics to easily identify which assist setting youre in. Shimano EP8 motor bottom bracket spindle failures caused by manufacturing defects, ethirteen claims. Their heckler had complete battery failure, the ship date for a new one is close to the motor ship date. At 52+ lbs, you're going to be using that motor every pedal stroke. It is the most underrated comment ever on the pinkbike. There are 5 levels of adjustment from Mild to Quick, with the highest setting requiring only a small rotation with light pedal force to engage the motor. Rattling and lack of update to the battery monitoring is a no go for me, I would just upgrade the battery to the new 620s if i could fit it. 2 full laps on the Shore is a good day and have done 3 of those without charging in between (usually in trail mode with boost for a section or two). Quote Start New Topic Post a reply to: SHIMANO EP8 - won't turn on (new bike) Along with a new larger 630Wh battery option, plus updated hardware and software, Shimano certainly hasnt held back with its much-anticipated return fire on the highly competitive and fast-moving electric mountain bike market. Certainly of all the full-power motors weve tested, Shimano EP8 affords the most seamless feel as the power fades in and out around the assistance cutoff. I also have a YT Decoy with Shimano E8000 motor. Also the bikes will be heavy as f*ck with an 820Wh battery. What settings you end up will depend on your personal riding style, and your expectations of range and power output. Along with the EP8s magnesium casting, heat sinks and polished logos, it affords a classy look not an easy feat for an e-MTB. The cheapest Specialized Levo is the Expert model, which sells for just shy of $16K. Environmentally I think they're a disaster as well - rare earth elements in the batteries for one thing. Absolutely. 5Nm doesnt sound like much on paper, but on the trail the Levos 2.2 motor is noticeably musclier than Shimano EP8, particularly at the extreme ends of the cadence spectrum. Also did some trail work. Shimano said August was the best. If that fails check those thin cables have no freys and are all in tact, they are easily damaged. I feel like I've been missing out on so much! Since working for MBUK, Alexs focus has moved to bike tech. Chuckle. However, we couldnt get the display to pair with our Wahoo ELMNT Roam head unit. If possible, repeat this ride on the Eco and Boost modes too. Anyone having problems with the charger? For a mechanic, mechanical noise is a no-no by the end of the ride Id be destroyed mentally! Specialized is close to this. It was one of the most fun bikes to ride. However, all are fitted with Shimano cranks. My take away besides the obviously pro/con talking points was the weight of the bike. Shimano get your shit together or just say that you're not going to find a fix. Another bike that features Shimano EP8 is the new Orbea Rise. As of April 2021, all of Commencals EP8-equipped bikes have been specced with Shimano cranks, but this change has taken some time to filter through to consumers because of the time it takes for fully built bikes to get to the shop floor. The investigation has led e*thirteen to produce technical service bulletin 157 (TSB), published on its website on 14 October 2021. With the new EP8, Shimano managed to close the gap to its biggest competitors. Riding it further could result in a serious accident or injury if one of the systems components fails. Can I give 100 upvotes please? this dude knows how to write a review, well done. One is a Haibike Fat-Tire with a Yamaha Drive, the second is an absolutely brilliant 40lb (including battery) DIODE from LaMere Cycles in the USA. I tried to find out the cause of this. I rode an e bike and suffered a little bit yesterday. Come join the discussion about bike parts, components, deals, performance, modifications, classifieds, trails, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Annoying rattle, did anyone say that to Shimano when they first introduced the freewheel? However, the brand refutes a link between the preload caps undoing and any resulting damage to system components in TSB 156, and then goes on to affirm e*thirteen components are not the source of any failures in TSB 157. Commencal which has sold a number of its Meta Power electric bikeswith an EP8 motor and e*thirteen crank combination replied to our inquiries. Basically any minor impact that causes the chain to bounce and tug at the chainring will result in noise. The Shimano EP8 RS motor, the key to the experience. An e-Mtb allows me to ride farther, and more often and smile from beginning to end, not just the downhill sections! Just kidding! That kind of thing can destroy a company's reputation even if it's not something serious . Shimano says it provides up to 350-percent support (in Boost mode versus the E8000's 300 percent). One of the more intriguing aspects of EP8 is the ability to fine-tune the motors performance via Shimanos E-Tube Project app. Only the Levos belt-driven Brose drive unit beats EP8 in terms of motor noise. Now, would we like to see Shimano eliminate the noise altogether? When we see failures like this, it is incumbent on us to find the root cause and, if it is within our control, provide a resolution, reads e*thirteens statement. Again, shift it down one notch at a time to get a feel for the change. We will have them soon available in all our subsidiaries (Canada, USA, Chile, Australia, NZ and Reunion Island) to reach all our customers worldwide.. Not everyone has the time to grind for an hour up the climb. -- Wild Bill. No, you're running the latest EP8. Both bikes were fitted with e*thirteen cranks. The version I've been riding on was 17,8kg. Nothing like on an ebike. Any rider who owns an ebike with an EP8 motor fitted with e*thirteen cranks currently has two options. Lapierre e-zesty. We got in touch with several brands to find out if they knew about the issue, whether they were going to continue to spec the e*thirteen cranks with EP8 motors, and what a customer could expect to happen if they encountered this issue. And you can take the motor together with a battery out in matter of seconds. This, of course, is good news for Commencal customers with EP8 drive units and e*thirteen cranks, and were hopeful other brands will follow suit. 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